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Louis
04.04.2011, 13:10
Um hier also fortzufahren mit unseren Transmutern, ihren je nach Rasse und Spielverlauf unterschiedlichen Entwicklungen und Herausforderungen. :D

Hier nochmal die Tabelle aus dem Ursprungs-Thread:

86

Ich schlage vor, dass mir jeder, der einen Transmuter spielt, künftig die Werte für Stufe 8 übermittelt. Am besten per Screenshot.

Nächster möglicher Stichpunkt wäre dann Stufe 11, davon haben wir offenbar auch einige Screens. Sollen wir dann einfach sagen, alle 3 Stufen, oder ist das zu häufig?

Der erste Screen von mir ist von dem Zeitpunkt, als er Stufe 11 erreicht hat, allerdings hatte er da noch 2000 XP Überschuss. Ich bin mir gerade nicht mehr ganz sicher, ob das an einer gezogenen XP-Karte lag, oder ob er irgend einen wichtigen Unique erschlagen hatte.

79

Deswegen vermutlich am besten gleich den anderen hinterher, als die XP aufgebraucht waren.

80

Dodging ist auf 12, Transmutation auf 11.

Relative Schwächen hat der Spriggan, wie kaum anders zu erwarten, nach wie vor in den klassischen Nahkampf-Fertigkeiten mit Fighting bei mageren 3 und Unarmed Combat auf 8.

Nemelex führt dazu, dass ich auch auf Evocations ein Auge haben muss. Das verzweigt bei dem Charakter natürlich die XP sehr stark (zusätzlich zu den Kampf- und Zauberfähigkeiten). Andererseits haben Spriggans in einigen Bereichen so gute Aptituden (auch bei Evo), dass das nicht weiter stört. Bislang jedenfalls nicht.

Anschließend der Überblick. Daran sieht man auch, dass Stufe 11 bei mir rund 11.000 XP entspricht. Könnte ja auch eventuell ein wichtiger Hinweis für Vergleiche sein.

81

Eher unter den Bereich "Story" fällt der nächste Screen, eine Schleuder, die ich gefunden habe. Für die Entwicklung des Spriggans ist sie trotzdem nicht unerheblich, weil der Fund einfach zu gut ist, um ihn komplett zu ignorieren. Ich werde also künftig auch noch ein paar XP in Sling investieren.

Allein schon rElec und rPois sind ein guter Grund, die Schleuder mal prophylaktisch in der Hand zu haben. STR+3 und Stealth++ sind natürlich ebenfalls sehr hilfreiche Boni.

82

Das erste Ornate Deck of Wonders beschert mir gleich eine XP-Karte, die mich auf Stufe 13 katapultiert.

83

Wie man auf dem folgenden Screen sehen kann ist das gleichbedeutend mit 14.000 geschenkten XP-Punkten.

84

Ich hab in der Vergangenheit eigentlich nie in größerem Ausmaß Victory-Dancing betrieben, aber diesmal habe ich vor, gezielt Dodging nach oben zu treiben, weil es für den nahkämpfenden Spriggan-Transmuter eine der meiner Meinung nach wichtigsten Fähigkeiten ist.

Ich suche mir also einen Gegner. Ein Ork wäre mir lieber gewesen, finde aber keinen, also nehme ich mit der Worker Ant Vorlieb. Um mich gegen den Giftangriff zu schützen, nehme ich die Schleuder in die Hand, stelle mich neben sie und drücke "s".

85

Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr häufig. :D

gubbel
04.04.2011, 13:33
Ich füg mal die morgue.txt von meinem an :(


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-5620-g273693b character file.

231600 Arantir the Spry (level 20, -13/147 HPs)
Began as a Sludge Elf Transmuter on Mar 28, 2011.
Was a High Priest of Okawaru.
Hit by a poisoned javelin thrown by a merfolk javelineer (20 damage)
... on Level 5 of the Shoals on Mar 30, 2011.
The game lasted 09:36:43 (71355 turns).

Arantir the Spry (Sludge Elf Transmuter) Turns: 71355, Time: 09:36:43

HP -13/147 AC 25 Str 13 Exp: 20/390930 (3), need: 32669
MP 24/32 EV 32 Int 20 God: Okawaru [*****.]
Gold 228 SH 0 Dex 29 Spells: 13 memorised, 0 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + - Unarmed
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . w - +0 robe of Jeanul {Dex+5 Int+3 Dam+3}
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . A - +2 plumed helmet
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . C - +2 cloak
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . X - +2 pair of orc gauntlets {Dex+3} {god gift
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . L - +2 pair of elf boots
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . Q - amulet of the gourmand
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : + x - ring "Reucroew" {Hunger rPois AC+4 Str+2 D
Gourmand : + Ctrl.Flight: . r - ring of see invisible

@: icy armour, levitating, very slightly glowing, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: -10% mp, screaming 1, Str -1, Dex +1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion


You were on level 5 of the Shoals.
You worshipped Okawaru.
Okawaru was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and saw 49 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: spiders nest.

You collected 3886 gold pieces.
You spent 3678 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
l - a +2,+2 knife
Armour
b - a +2 robe of resistance
w - the +0 robe of Jeanul (worn) {Dex+5 Int+3 Dam+3}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+5).
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
A - a +2 plumed helmet (worn)
C - a +2 cloak (worn)
L - a +2 pair of elven boots (worn)
X - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets of dexterity (worn) {god gift}
Magical devices
d - a wand of fire (8)
g - a wand of digging (5)
o - a wand of disintegration (5)
B - a wand of lightning (9)
K - a wand of paralysis (8)
T - a wand of cold (1)
U - a wand of invisibility (3)
Comestibles
u - 3 meat rations
y - a choko
O - a lemon
S - 3 royal jellies
Scrolls
f - a scroll of recharging
h - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
i - 2 scrolls of remove curse
k - 5 scrolls of identify
s - 2 scrolls of blinking
H - 4 scrolls of teleportation
N - 4 scrolls of detect curse
Jewellery
r - a ring of see invisible (left hand)
x - the ring "Reucroew" (right hand) {Hunger rPois AC+4 Str+2 Dam+2}
(You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon)
[ring of protection]
It affects your AC (+4).
It affects your strength (+2).
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+2).
It protects you from poison.
It speeds your metabolism.
F - a +5 ring of dexterity
Q - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
V - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
Potions
c - 2 potions of strong poison
e - 5 potions of confusion
j - 2 potions of resistance
m - 5 potions of healing
n - 3 potions of agility
t - 3 potions of restore abilities
v - a potion of might
z - 3 potions of brilliance
I - 5 potions of speed
P - a potion of heal wounds
R - 3 potions of slowing


You had 3 experience left.

Skills:
- Level 14 Fighting
- Level 2 Throwing
+ Level 17 Dodging
- Level 10 Stealth
- Level 4 Stabbing
+ Level 2 Shields
+ Level 8 Traps & Doors
- Level 16 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 10 Spellcasting
- Level 3 Conjurations
+ Level 7 Charms
- Level 5 Necromancy
- Level 15 Transmutations
- Level 3 Fire Magic
+ Level 9 Ice Magic
+ Level 6 Air Magic
+ Level 10 Invocations
+ Level 2 Evocations


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Success Level Hunger
a - Throw Frost Ice/Conj #####.. Excellent 2 None
b - Fulsome Distillation Trmt/Necr N/A Excellent 1 None
c - Evaporate Fire/Trmt ######.... Excellent 2 None
d - Blade Hands Trmt #######... Excellent 5 Honeycomb
e - Ignite Poison Fire/Trmt ######.... Great 5 Honeycomb
f - Swiftness Air/Chrm ######.... Excellent 2 None
g - Repel Missiles Air/Chrm ######.... Excellent 2 None
h - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #####..... Excellent 3 None
i - Sticks to Snakes Trmt #######... Excellent 2 None
j - Ozocubu's Armour Ice/Chrm ######.... Excellent 3 None
k - Condensation Shield Ice/Trmt #######... Excellent 4 Choko
l - Levitation Air/Chrm ######.... Excellent 2 None
m - Deflect Missiles Air/Chrm ######.... Very Poor 6 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (20/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:8
Elf (4/5) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (5/5) Lair:6
Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Snake (5/5) Lair:4 Hive (2/2) D:13
Vault (0/8) D:14

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
The Shining One
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh
Lugonu

Shops:
D:4: ? D:5: ( D:7: = D:10: ( D:11: + D:20: % Orc:4: (%?* Elf:3: [[((? Snake:1: +( Snake:2: ? Snake:4: ? Snake:5: +

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8
Trove: D:13 (book of Dreams)
Ziggurat: D:9 (3720 gp)

Annotations
Snake:1 exclusion: Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are agile (Dex +1).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
You occasionally shout uncontrollably.
You are weak (Str -1).


Message History

As you read the scroll of blinking, it crumbles to dust.
You flicker back into view.
The merfolk javelineer throws a glowing spear.
The glowing spear misses you.
The merfolk javelineer throws a poisoned javelin.
The poisoned javelin hits you!
You die...

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You could see a merfolk javelineer.

Vanquished Creatures
Saint Roka (D:18)
Norris (Shoals:2)
Mara (Snake:4)
Margery (Snake:5)
Xtahua (Snake:5)
Kirke (Elf:4)
Rupert (D:19)
Agnes (D:19)
Frances (Snake:4)
Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
Donald (Snake:4)
Terpsichore (Shoals:1)
Wiglaf (Shoals:1)
Louise (Snake:4)
10 greater nagas (Snake:5)
A deep elf annihilator (Elf:1)
The ghost of Subject35 the Slicer, a powerful KoAs of Okawaru (Hive:1)
Jozef (Orc:4)
A dire elephant (Lair:8)
Azrael (Elf:4)
Snorg (Shoals:2)
A dragon (D:20)
A siren (Shoals:4)
3 ogre magi
Erica (Orc:4)
9 hydras
9 anacondas
2 wizards
A spriggan druid (Lair:8)
6 death yaks
A merfolk impaler (Shoals:3)
Nergalle (Snake:1)
An elf (shapeshifter) (D:18)
A sun demon (Lair:8)
5 emperor scorpions (Port)
5 centaur warriors
A soul eater (Elf:3)
A stone giant skeleton (D:20)
5 skeletal warriors (D:16)
5 hell knights (Snake:5)
3 sea snakes
An emperor scorpion (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
An unseen horror (D:13)
Erolcha (Orc:4)
20 deep elf knights
11 naga warriors
7 orc knights
A harpy zombie (D:20)
An iron troll skeleton (D:14)
A giant amoeba (D:20)
Joseph (Orc:2)
Urug (Elf:2)
An orc sorcerer (Orc:4)
20 harpies
7 hill giants
3 dancing weapons (Shoals:1)
2 necromancers (Snake:5)
A fire crab (D:20)
An oklob plant (D:11)
A guardian serpent (Snake:3)
10 cyclopes
Maurice (Elf:1)
2 red wasps
21 black mambas
A griffon zombie (D:13)
A shop mimic (D:20)
39 slime creatures
18 elephants
4 elephant slugs
3 weapon mimics
12 spiny frogs
A griffon skeleton (D:15)
An orange demon (Lair:8)
5 wolf spiders
4 hellwings (Lair:8)
4 rock trolls
6 yaktaurs
Psyche (Orc:2)
6 mermaids
23 naga magi
4 queen bees
A black mamba skeleton (Snake:4)
13 ugly things
A smoke demon (Lair:8)
4 blink frogs
A giant toad skeleton (D:18)
7 redbacks (Port)
Sonja (Elf:1)
A hill giant skeleton (D:17)
2 komodo dragons
A deep troll zombie (D:19)
Prince Ribbit (D:4)
A polar bear (Lair:8)
9 snapping turtles
A rock troll zombie (D:9)
14 trolls
9 two-headed ogres
2 demonic crawlers (Port)
A bumblebee (shapeshifter) (Elf:4)
A hairy devil (Lair:8)
17 giant toads
A grizzly bear (Lair:8)
2 vampires
Edmund (D:9)
A wraith (D:14)
59 yaks
3 vipers
27 merfolk
Eustachio (D:4)
2 hogs (Elf:4)
A merfolk (shapeshifter) (D:18)
3 fire elementals (Elf:4)
8 bears
16 deep elf fighters
Grum (D:9)
5 deep elf conjurers
A wyvern (D:17)
17 hippogriffs
3 hungry ghosts
A clay golem (D:18)
8 deep elf summoners
5 sharks
A fire drake (Lair:8)
A wood golem (D:12)
14 manticores
2 mottled dragons (D:19)
9 vampire mosquitoes
The ghost of Subject43 the Insei, an average SETm (D:3)
A soldier ant (D:18)
A hell hound (Elf:4)
3 jumping spiders (Port)
24 war dogs
2 swamp worms (D:10)
An ice beast (D:13)
3 red devils (Lair:8)
2 sky beasts
29 orc warriors
A black bear (Lair:8)
8 deep elf priests
A black bear (shapeshifter) (D:18)
68 nagas
30 ogres
10 giant goldfish
An ogre (shapeshifter) (D:20)
A troll skeleton (D:14)
A troll zombie (D:13)
2 boulder beetle zombies
3 wolves
3 phantoms
22 deep elf magi
11 centaurs
7 gila monsters
9 tarantellas (Port)
2 wargs
2 boring beetles
10 crocodiles
18 giant frogs
2 rotting devils (Lair:8)
31 water moccasins
A giant leech (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
A yellow wasp zombie (D:18)
9 giant slugs
A yaktaur simulacrum (D:16)
A big kobold (D:15)
3 elf zombies
4 agate snails
11 electric eels
A boulder beetle (Lair:8)
165 killer bees
18 jellyfish
2 goliath beetles
9 imps
7 wights
2 big kobold skeletons
Dowan (D:9)
5 big fish (Lair:1)
14 hounds
Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
16 scorpions
5 shadows
An iron imp (Snake:4)
2 hound zombies
7 orange rats
21 orc priests
A quasit (D:8)
2 hound skeletons
8 porcupines
26 deep elf soldiers
6 sheep
10 iguanas
6 worker ants
26 orc wizards
3 spectral orcs (Snake:1)
Jessica (D:2)
A goliath beetle zombie (D:14)
6 jellies
2 mummies
2 lemures
4 gnolls (D:10)
2 midges
19 giant centipedes
21 green rats
A giant centipede zombie (D:8)
42 snakes
2 white imps (Elf:4)
3 giant mites
17 worms
13 ufetubi
7 grey rats
2 giant eyeballs
10 giant geckos
2 oozes (D:2)
200 orcs
5 giant cockroaches
24 goblins
22 hobgoblins
12 jackals
30 kobolds
6 quokkas
2 small snakes
2 giant gecko zombies
8 giant newts
A giant spore (D:12)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:6)
62 killer bee larvae
42 megabats
An orc skeleton (D:18)
4 orc zombies (D:16)
24 rats
4 ballistomycetes (D:12)
A bush (Lair:5)
6 fungi
8 plants
4 tentacles (Shoals:1)
22 toadstools
1976 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
An ugly thing (D:8)
An orc warrior (D:8)
2 ogres
A black bear (D:6)
Duvessa (D:9)
A giant slug (Lair:6)
2 killer bees (D:8)
A goliath beetle (D:7)
2 imps
A hound zombie (D:8)
A scorpion (D:7)
2 orc wizards
An orc priest (D:8)
2 snakes
A snake zombie (D:7)
A worm (D:8)
Terence (D:3)
17 orcs
A hobgoblin (D:4)
A megabat (D:9)
A small snake (D:6)
A giant cockroach (D:3)
A goblin (D:5)
2 kobolds
An orc zombie (D:7)
2 quokka skeletons
49 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
31 slime creatures
A deep elf conjurer (Elf:4)
A wyvern (Lair:8)
A merfolk (Shoals:5)
A small abomination (D:9)
A naga (Snake:1)
A deep elf mage (Elf:3)
2 humans (Elf:4)
3 orcs
A goblin (D:5)
A hobgoblin (D:3)
A quokka (Lair:2)
3 killer bee larvae
A megabat (Elf:3)
A rat (Elf:4)
A butterfly (D:16)
A fungus (D:3)
51 tentacles
510 tentacle segments
42 toadstools
655 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2680 creatures vanquished

gubbel
04.04.2011, 13:34
und die Notes im eigenen Post da es ein max. Zeichen Limit gibt :hmlol


Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | Arantir, the Sludge Elf Transmuter, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
62 | D:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Fulsome Distillation
367 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 8/16 MP: 2/3
1067 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
1070 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Evaporate
1317 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 6/22 MP: 4/5
1594 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
1648 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica
1659 | D:2 | Defeated Jessica
1659 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/27 MP: 5/7
1844 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
2823 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 11/33 MP: 6/9
3195 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
3200 | D:3 | Noticed Subject43's ghost (average SETm)
3254 | D:3 | Defeated Subject43's ghost
3390 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Transmutations
3726 | D:2 | Reached skill level 7 in Transmutations
4174 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 23/38 MP: 10/12
4640 | D:3 | Noticed Terence
4656 | D:3 | Defeated Terence
4954 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
4964 | D:3 | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
5158 | D:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Transmutations
5206 | D:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
5758 | D:4 | Noticed Eustachio
6021 | D:4 | Defeated Eustachio
6021 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 23/43 MP: 11/16
6023 | D:4 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
6071 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
6375 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
6506 | D:4 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
6696 | D:4 | Defeated Prince Ribbit
6942 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Transmutations
6964 | D:4 | Found Etieqav's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
7096 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 30 gold pieces
7096 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 30 gold pieces
7096 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 30 gold pieces
7156 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
7355 | D:5 | Found Pnalem's Antique Weapon Shop.
7357 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
7378 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
7469 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
7544 | D:5 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
7582 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 12/18
7601 | D:5 | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
7709 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
8078 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
8273 | D:6 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
8352 | D:6 | Acquired Okawaru's first power
8568 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
8719 | D:5 | Bought a knife for 18 gold pieces
8930 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
9181 | D:6 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
9307 | D:7 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
9392 | D:7 | Found Jigamaci's Jewellery Boutique.
9397 | D:7 | Bought an uncursed ring of see invisible for 182 gold pieces
9950 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
10133 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
10378 | D:8 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/56 MP: 1/19
10621 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
10713 | D:8 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
10752 | D:8 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
10875 | D:8 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
10876 | D:8 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
10877 | D:8 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
10879 | D:8 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
10886 | D:8 | Defeated a brown ugly thing
10896 | D:8 | Defeated a purple ugly thing
10904 | D:8 | Defeated a cyan ugly thing
10915 | D:8 | Defeated a cyan ugly thing
10969 | D:8 | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
10969 | D:8 | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
10969 | D:8 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
11153 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
11247 | D:8 | Lost mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
11247 | D:8 | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
11247 | D:8 | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
11362 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
11652 | D:9 | Noticed Duvessa
11658 | D:9 | Defeated Duvessa
11662 | D:9 | Noticed Dowan
11668 | D:9 | Defeated Dowan
11670 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/63 MP: 1/20
11697 | D:9 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
12003 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
12080 | D:9 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
12311 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
12314 | D:9 | Noticed a rock troll zombie
12643 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
12796 | Orc:1 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
12924 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
13134 | Orc:2 | Noticed Joseph
13405 | Orc:2 | Defeated Joseph
13449 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
13584 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Transmutations
15337 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
15355 | Orc:2 | Noticed Psyche
15367 | Orc:2 | Defeated Psyche
15367 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 56/71 MP: 20/22
16129 | Orc:3 | Acquired Okawaru's second power
16432 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 35 gold pieces
16432 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 35 gold pieces
17575 | D:9 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
17682 | D:9 | Defeated a rock troll zombie
17682 | D:9 | Received a gift from Okawaru
17695 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
17826 | D:9 | Noticed Edmund
17833 | D:9 | Defeated Edmund
18203 | D:9 | Noticed Grum
18211 | D:9 | Defeated Grum
18834 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
18868 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Transmutations
18870 | D:10 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
18888 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
18967 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
19252 | D:10 | Found Hinto's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
19589 | D:10 | Got a glittering bone amulet
19732 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
20487 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
20568 | D:11 | Found Wad Otax's Book Emporium.
20838 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
20851 | D:11 | Identified the amulet of Qusimmif (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
21636 | D:12 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 79/79 MP: 9/26
22138 | Temple | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison
22710 | D:12 | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
22913 | D:12 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
23031 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
23064 | Lair:1 | You fall through a shaft!
23359 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
23902 | Lair:1 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
25056 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
25059 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Levitation
25257 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
25427 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
25449 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
25644 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors
26636 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
27226 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 86/86 MP: 12/27
27339 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
29481 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
29514 | Lair:6 | Found a crumbling entrance.
29529 | Spider | Entered a spider's nest
30268 | Spider | Reached XP level 14. HP: 94/96 MP: 4/28
30520 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
30735 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
31041 | Lair:6 | Found a frozen archway.
31351 | D:11 | Bought a book of War Chants for 600 gold pieces
31356 | D:11 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
31514 | D:7 | Bought an uncursed ring of sustenance for 227 gold pieces
32190 | D:13 | Noticed a queen bee
32202 | D:13 | Found a staircase to the Hive.
32217 | D:13 | Defeated a queen bee
32575 | D:13 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
32754 | D:13 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
32755 | D:13 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
33083 | D:13 | Noticed a queen bee
33096 | D:13 | Defeated a queen bee
34605 | D:14 | Received a gift from Okawaru
34737 | D:14 | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
34958 | D:14 | Got a slimy lapis lazuli ring
34975 | D:14 | Identified the ring "Reucroew" (You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon)
35470 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
36437 | Hive:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
36462 | Hive:1 | Noticed Subject35's ghost (powerful KoAs)
36474 | Hive:1 | Defeated Subject35's ghost
36474 | Hive:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 93/102 MP: 26/31
36560 | Hive:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
36599 | Hive:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
36734 | Hive:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
37528 | Hive:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
39656 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
39682 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Okawaru
39689 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
39864 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
40521 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
40806 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
40872 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell.
42106 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: You can spit poison.
42106 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
42106 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: You can spit moderately strong poison.
42131 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
42210 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
42290 | Snake:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 110/110 MP: 33/33
42370 | Snake:1 | Noticed Roxanne
42531 | Snake:1 | Found Skodur's Book Shop.
42532 | Snake:1 | Noticed Nergalle
42542 | Snake:1 | Defeated Nergalle
42572 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
42576 | Snake:1 | Bought a book of Ice for 910 gold pieces
42582 | Snake:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Condensation Shield
42666 | Snake:1 | Found Wito's Weapon Emporium.
42823 | Snake:2 | Found Vuomoaxku's Magic Scroll Boutique.
42834 | Snake:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
42834 | Snake:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
42982 | Snake:2 | Got a distressingly furry animal skin
43529 | Snake:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
43717 | Snake:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
45163 | Snake:4 | Noticed Donald
45182 | Snake:4 | Defeated Donald
45280 | Snake:4 | Noticed Mara
45303 | Snake:4 | Noticed Arantir's ghost (mighty SETm)
45305 | Snake:4 | Found Twatsol's Magic Scroll Shop.
45322 | Snake:4 | Noticed Frances
45522 | Snake:4 | Defeated Frances
45558 | Snake:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
45691 | Snake:4 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
45740 | Snake:4 | Noticed Louise
45773 | Snake:4 | Defeated Louise
46858 | D:16 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
46867 | D:16 | Got a glistering book
46870 | D:16 | Identified Lugonu's Almanac of Summoning (You found it on level 16 of the Dungeon)
47005 | D:16 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
47462 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: You have a slow metabolism.
47462 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
47464 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You have a slow metabolism.
47464 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
47464 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You can spit moderately strong poison.
47464 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You can spit poison.
47465 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
47778 | D:17 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 78/121 MP: 23/34
48621 | D:18 | Noticed Saint Roka
48807 | D:18 | Defeated Saint Roka
49323 | D:18 | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
50525 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
50909 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Terpsichore
50930 | Shoals:1 | Defeated Terpsichore
51075 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Wiglaf
51084 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
51086 | Shoals:1 | Defeated Wiglaf
52032 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
52049 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Norris
52058 | Shoals:2 | Paralysed by Norris for 3 turns
52069 | Shoals:2 | Defeated Norris
52369 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Snorg
52376 | Shoals:2 | Defeated Snorg
54217 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 123/128 MP: 24/35
54482 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
54523 | Shoals:4 | Gained mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
54543 | Shoals:4 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
54565 | Shoals:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
54709 | Shoals:4 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably.
55637 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
55714 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
55755 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha
55762 | Orc:4 | Found Oneah's Food Boutique.
55769 | Orc:4 | Defeated Erolcha
55794 | Orc:4 | Found Kliudang's Weapon Emporium.
55796 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55796 | Orc:4 | Noticed a cyclops
55802 | Orc:4 | Noticed a rock troll
55804 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55805 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55805 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
55806 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55807 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55808 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
55809 | Orc:4 | Noticed Jozef
55810 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ogre mage
55820 | Orc:3 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
55821 | Orc:3 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
55821 | Orc:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
55822 | Orc:3 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
55934 | Orc:4 | Noticed a cyclops
55942 | Orc:4 | Defeated a cyclops
55960 | Orc:4 | Noticed a rock troll
55966 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
55970 | Orc:4 | Defeated a rock troll
55982 | Orc:4 | Defeated an ogre mage
56052 | Orc:4 | Found Gifop's Assorted Antiques.
56057 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Transmutations
56059 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ogre mage
56066 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
56070 | Orc:4 | Defeated an ogre mage
56094 | Orc:4 | Found Etoam's Magic Scroll Boutique.
56121 | Orc:4 | Defeated a cyclops
56297 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 33 gold pieces
56297 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 33 gold pieces
56297 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
56297 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 33 gold pieces
56297 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 33 gold pieces
56304 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erica
56311 | Orc:4 | Defeated Erica
56325 | Orc:4 | Defeated a rock troll
56388 | Orc:4 | Bought a distressingly furry robe for 136 gold pieces
56407 | Orc:4 | Identified the +0 robe of Jeanul (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
56519 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
56559 | Orc:4 | Defeated Jozef
57501 | Snake:4 | Defeated Mara
57619 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 45 gold pieces
57882 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
57904 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
58035 | Snake:5 | Found Crogio's Book Shop.
58360 | Snake:5 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 104/137 MP: 19/32
58462 | Snake:5 | Noticed Xtahua
58625 | Snake:5 | Defeated Xtahua
58708 | Snake:5 | Noticed Margery
59221 | Snake:5 | HP: 3/137 [Margery/fireball (89)]
60382 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
61055 | Snake:5 | Defeated Margery
61288 | Snake:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Dodging
61979 | D:19 | Noticed Rupert
62019 | D:19 | Defeated Rupert
62133 | D:19 | Received a gift from Okawaru
62539 | D:19 | Noticed Agnes
62550 | D:19 | Defeated Agnes
62688 | D:19 | Got a heavily runed pewter ring
62689 | D:19 | Identified the cursed ring "Schuopn" (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon)
63190 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
63190 | D:20 | Found Cuxke's Food Shoppe.
63365 | D:20 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
64207 | D:20 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 143/143 MP: 28/32
65532 | Snake:1 | Bought a book of the Sky for 910 gold pieces
65540 | Snake:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
65634 | Snake:2 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 72 gold pieces
65995 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
65997 | Elf:1 | Noticed Maurice
66010 | Elf:1 | Defeated Maurice
66090 | Elf:1 | Noticed Sonja
66095 | Elf:1 | Defeated Sonja
66492 | Elf:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
66578 | Elf:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
67428 | Elf:2 | Noticed Urug
67439 | Elf:2 | Defeated Urug
67833 | Elf:3 | Found Zaugag's Weapon Shoppe.
67877 | Elf:3 | Found Nietzeok's Antique Armour Shop.
67916 | Elf:3 | Paralysed by a deep elf mage for 6 turns
67964 | Elf:3 | Found Chu Guaq's Weapon Shop.
68045 | Elf:3 | Found Legaeres' Antique Armour Boutique.
68054 | Elf:3 | Bought an ancient robe for 142 gold pieces
68063 | Elf:3 | Identified the cursed -5 robe "Quplyuz" (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
68080 | Elf:3 | Bought a runed plumed helmet for 62 gold pieces
68257 | Elf:3 | Found Kotun's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
69051 | Elf:4 | Noticed Kirke
69061 | Elf:4 | Defeated Kirke
69111 | Elf:4 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
69304 | Elf:4 | Noticed Azrael
69312 | Elf:4 | Defeated Azrael
71034 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
71072 | Shoals:5 | Got a brightly glowing battleaxe
71312 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
71330 | Shoals:5 | Defeated Ilsuiw
71350 | Shoals:5 | HP: 5/147 [merfolk javelineer/ runed javelin (22)]
71355 | Shoals:5 | Hit by a poisoned javelin thrown by a merfolk javelineer

Louis
04.04.2011, 13:42
Das Verblüffende ist dann: Zwei Kartenzüge später kommt schon wieder eine XP-Karte. :irre

88

Nochmal 14.000 XP obendrauf. :)

87

Ich lerne anschließend auf die harte Tour, dass Blade Hands gegen Hydren keine gute Idee sind (und warum zum Teufel findet man neuerdings schon auf Lair:1 achtköpfige Hydren??

Jedenfalls mache ich aus einer achtköpfigen Hydra mal eben schnell eine elfköpfige, und überlebe es trotzdem, dreimal von ihr attackiert zu werden. Ein Lob dem Dodging-Skill.

Sie zu töten habe ich aber massiv Schwierigkeiten, brauche mehrere Anläufe, probiere verschiedene Sachen aus, komm nicht recht zum Erfolg. "Ice Beast" lautet dann die Lösung.

90

Das Ergebnis auf Stufe 14 mit künstlich hochgezüchtetem Dodging sieht dann so aus:

89

Dodging auf 16,8.

Dafür die anderen Skills relativ gleich geblieben. Transmutation nur auf 12,5. Unarmed Combat nur auf 10,8.

Stufe 14 entspricht bei mir knapp 70.000 XP.

Grund-EV ist auf 32.

Der Transmuter braucht wirklich all seine drei Charakteristika STR, DEX und INT, Intelligenz gegen Spellhunger, und DEX für Dodging. Und STR, um die vielen Gegenstände schleppen zu können (Tränke, und, in meinem Fall: Kartendecks).

91

edit: Wie lösche ich denn hier hochgeladene Anhänge?

Und warum wird der Anhang, den ich gar nicht eingebunden habe, hier trotzdem angezeigt? Das ist ja nervig. :nie

Louis
04.04.2011, 15:07
Ich hab zwar eure Ergebnisse noch nicht, aber ich kann ja mal meine Daten querschneiden, und bin dabei über das Ergebnis recht überrascht.

Es lautet nämlich: Die wichtigsten Skills sind während der vergangenen 6 Stufen gleichmäßig angestiegen.

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Fighting ist alle drei Stufen um je etwa 2 Punkte angestiegen.
Unarmed ebenso um 2 Punkte.
Dodging jeweils um 4 Punkte. (Obwohl oder gerade weil ich bei einem Stufenanstieg die gesammelten XP darin versenkt habe)

Ähnliches gilt für Stabbing, Spellcast und sogar einige der kleineren.

Nur Transmutation macht eine Ausnahme, da sieht man einen deutlichen Knick, nachdem es zweistellig geworden ist. :gruebel

Jim
04.04.2011, 15:11
Ich wollte eigentlich auch meine Transmuter erstmal ruhen lassen. Zumindest in den nächsten Tagen kann ich da nichts Neues liefern.
Aber beim Levelvergleich hat man auch das Problem, dass der unterschiedliche XP-Bedarf das Ergebnis verzerrt. Besser wäre eigentlch bei gewissen XP-Werten zu vergleichen.

Dein Knick bei Transmutation könnte ich mir damit erklären, dass die Steigerungskosten deutlich angestiegen sind.

Louis
04.04.2011, 18:20
Ich wollte eigentlich auch meine Transmuter erstmal ruhen lassen. Zumindest in den nächsten Tagen kann ich da nichts Neues liefern.
Aber beim Levelvergleich hat man auch das Problem, dass der unterschiedliche XP-Bedarf das Ergebnis verzerrt. Besser wäre eigentlch bei gewissen XP-Werten zu vergleichen.

Deswegen hab ich ja die Übersichts-Screens mitgeliefert, da kann man dann sehen, dass ich einmal bei 11.000 XP bin, und das zweite Mal bei etwa 70.000 XP. Letztlich ist aber immer überall irgendwie eine Verzerrung drin. Die schnelleren Stufenanstiege machen ja wiederum die Skill-Kosten teurer.


Dein Knick bei Transmutation könnte ich mir damit erklären, dass die Steigerungskosten deutlich angestiegen sind.

Ja, und damit, dass ich halt so viel in Dodging investiert habe. Auch aus Hungergründen hatte ich zuletzt das Zaubern etwas stärker eingeschränkt.